3,519 days later

Posted by · 9:14 pm · May 1st, 2011




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  • 1 5-01-2011 at 9:27 pm

    Maxim said...

    Donald Trump is looking (especially) dumb and insignificant right now.

  • 2 5-01-2011 at 10:02 pm

    John G said...

    George W. Bush is looking especially smart and relevant right now.

  • 3 5-01-2011 at 10:22 pm

    Louis said...

    “I am truly not that concerned about him.”
    -G. W Bush when asked about Bin Laden’s whereabouts on 3/3/02

  • 4 5-01-2011 at 10:31 pm

    John G said...

    (Sigh) I knew that comment would receive negative reaction on a website I’m sure attracts a largely left-wing audience, but I think it’s proper we celebrate a man who invested every ounce of energy he had into making sure America wouldn’t be attacked again. He did so at great risk to his personal popularity and made great sacrifice to his other objectives in government. Congratulations to President Obama, and congratulations to President Bush on a job well done.

  • 5 5-01-2011 at 10:37 pm

    Louis said...

    I can agree to that.

  • 6 5-01-2011 at 10:47 pm

    Derek 8-Track said...

    After 3,519 days of this…
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtkK3eijBso&feature=related

  • 7 5-01-2011 at 10:48 pm

    Al said...

    What in the hell does Donald Trump have to do with Osama Bin Laden?

    But I’ll throw myself in the ring of those giving congratulations to G.W. and Obama. They deserve it.

  • 8 5-01-2011 at 10:56 pm

    Robert Hamer said...

    While he certainly got what he deserved, we should still remember that nothing will bring back the lives he took on 9/11.

  • 9 5-01-2011 at 11:05 pm

    Maxim said...

    JohnG, you can blame liberals all you want but they weren’t the ones who made Bush say what he said. But do explain how that quote meshes with your theory that Bush “invested every ounce of energy he had into making sure America wouldn’t be attacked again [by starting a war in Iraq]” because I just don’t see it.

  • 10 5-01-2011 at 11:13 pm

    Maxim said...

    I do love it how right wingers go out of their way to try to attach Bush to Osama’s killing by riding Obama’s coattails (who, in all likelyhood will get too much credit for this). Even as they refuse to put any blame on him for the current economic situation. You can’t have it both ways, folks.

    Also trying to make country safer and actually doing so are two different things. The mission is either accomplished or it isn’t.

  • 11 5-01-2011 at 11:38 pm

    John G said...

    Maxim, I’m sorry but you’re wrong on several different counts here. I’m used to discussing this on a much more sophisticated level – it’s my job – so I won’t go into details, but government operates in a very nuanced way, and our intelligence and military apparatuses perform rather fluidly from administration to administration. There’s also a large crossover in personnel – notice the persisting prominence of Bush appointees Robert Gates and David Petreaus in Obama’s government.

    The economy’s a separate issue, but I’ll continue to point the finger at Barney Frank and his legislation on sub-prime mortgages as the single largest government induced cause of recession.

  • 12 5-01-2011 at 11:58 pm

    John G said...

    Oh well, I’ve decided against my better judgment to take the bait and elaborate.

    I’ll stand by my statement Bush looks “smart and relevant” because anyone who’s paid attention to the recent events in Tunisia, Egypt, Libya, and Syria can’t deny the astonishing success of the so called “Bush Doctrine” – the belief that all people desire freedom and that the United States must take an active role in providing it. I have some reservations about the global implications of this policy – I wouldn’t, for instance, suggest that freedom is a priority of Chinese nationals – but even Bush’s strongest proponents are blown away by the resounding triumphs of the Bush Doctrine in the Middle East. I’d personally like to see the Bush/Obama policy in Afghanistan and Pakistan uprooted, but recent successes in Iraq and the call for liberty in the Arab World suggest a surprising degree of accuracy imbedded in Bush’s controversial worldview.

    As far as that tricky quote goes, in my analysis of public policy I try not to get stuck on the “gotcha” soundbites.

  • 13 5-02-2011 at 1:51 am

    Fitz said...

    Congrats to both Presidents Obama and Bush.

    My question now is what backlash will Pakistan suffer for this?

  • 14 5-02-2011 at 3:36 am

    Louis said...

    Clinton initiated the Osama Bin Laden hunt after his failed attempt on the WTC and Reagan was the one who actually funded him (had he known what would happen decades later, It’s safe to say Reagan would’ve steered clear). Bush took the hit of 9/11 and promised to do everything he could to get him (though he went on to finish his dad’s war based on false intelligence). Obama, against all expectations, caught him thanks to all the work that was done before him. Seems like a tough one to give credit to – I would rather credit the soldiers who made it happen.

  • 15 5-02-2011 at 5:39 am

    tony rock said...

    Credit the intelligence and military personnel. They’re the ones who did the digging and found out where he was hiding.

  • 16 5-02-2011 at 5:51 am

    Mike_M said...

    Glad we got ’em… great work by the military and the Navy Seals who hunted him down and got the job done!

  • 17 5-02-2011 at 6:59 am

    Drew said...

    Love all the people on my campus celebrating this like it’s Christmas. Turn on Al Jazeera after an attack on American soil and you wouldn’t notice much of a difference.

  • 18 5-02-2011 at 8:30 am

    Andrej said...

    As a non-US citizen, ever since this news came around I wanted to ask this:

    Does this really locks Obama for reelection or not? What else could show the Republican side to win over him now?

  • 19 5-02-2011 at 8:32 am

    James D. said...

    It feels so good. Between lingering unemployment, crippling oil prices, birth certificate nonsense, and a bloody stalemate in Libya, this is a win. I haven’t felt so good about my country in a while.

  • 20 5-02-2011 at 12:12 pm

    Chris138 said...

    The man got what he deserved, but I have to say I think it is a little odd that people are celebrating his death as if we just won the Gold Medal in the Olympics or something. I read that they had fires and riots in Morgantown, West Virginia last night after it was announced.

    Anyways, job well done to the President and all involved in the operation.

  • 21 5-02-2011 at 5:48 pm

    Speaking English said...

    Good we got him, but the disturbing celebrations immediately proceeding the news is just another showcase of our lust for revenge and glorification of violence. It’s all one long cycle, and it’s certainly not over because this happened.

  • 22 5-03-2011 at 5:19 am

    tony rock said...

    I don’t normally suscribe to conspiracy theories, but I’m a little disturbed by the lack of photos and the fact that his body was dumped at sea three hours later…

  • 23 5-03-2011 at 5:19 am

    tony rock said...

    Edit: I don’t normally suscribe to conspiracy theories, but I’m a little disturbed by the lack of photos and the REPORT that his body was dumped at sea three hours later…

  • 24 5-03-2011 at 7:51 am

    Jim T said...

    Yeah, but, what about Oscar predictions Mr President? ;)

  • 25 5-03-2011 at 5:59 pm

    Pete said...

    He called it:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0zqYSbz_48

  • 26 5-03-2011 at 7:16 pm

    Al said...

    Bush’s quote about Osama wasn’t suggesting that he wasn’t a huge priority. If you actually listened to the tone/context he was just pointing out that Osama is less of a priority than keeping the country safe. Obviously he had great concern over him, Osama was on our militarys most wanted list. He was the one that suggested the Wanted Dead or Alive campaign. You’re seriously an idiot if you don’t think he was after him.

    One quote (that was meant to illustrate that he wasn’t as important to us as safety) against thousands that prove his feverish drive to capture Osama. Yeah, I’m pretty sure there is something wrong here.

  • 27 8-05-2014 at 5:32 pm

    Ashen said...

    Je1 percebi, RB, quer festa. E quer um rusemo em meia dfazia de linhas de um processo que tem sessenta anos. A minha opinie3o ne3o se altera com fait-divers e muito menos com pretextos. Trata-se apenas de mais um episf3dio do historial de agressf5es, brutalidades levadas a cabo pelo estado de Israel. Pretextos que ve3o mudando com o andar dos anos mas que concorrem para o mesmo objectivo definido desde sempre: a agenda de Israel ne3o passa por um estado palestiniano independente. Quer e9 transformar o conflito numa mera escaramue7a entre gente maltrapilha e chata, sem identidade e sem direito a reivindicar um estado e a quem e9 preciso assentar de vez em quando uns correctivos, e um paeds je1 organizado que tem que ir distribuindo umas palmadas dadas a tempo’. E que fujam para a Jorde2nia, le1 e9 que e9 a Palestina, como planeou aquele rapaz jeitoso no manejo de metralhadoras chamado Sharon. E para isso Israel ne3o hesita, nunca hesitou, em usar as ocupae7f5es, a fome, a careancia de bens, as bombas incendie1rias, a violeancia contra as populae7f5es civis, os hospitais, as escolas. Je1 sei, andavam todos de brae7adeira da ONU mas eram terroristas ou snipers, ou vizinhos de terroristas e snipers, principalmente as criane7as, as tais que o desenho aed colocado te3o bem retrata. Deu-me vontade de rir a inoceancia cednica do cartoon, fez-me lembrar de imediato a cane7e3o do Sting que he1 uns anos dizia “I hope the Russians love their children too”. Agora que os russos talvez, sei le1, e porque ne3o?, je1 gostem das suas criane7as, e9 altura de passar a maldie7e3o a outros. E os pretextos team sido de uma monotonia tal que os piedosos se limitam a abanar que sim a tudo com a cabee7a: ou porque o Arafat era terrorista, ou porque o terrorista e9 afinal o Hamas, qualquer dia o Abbas; ou porque e9 o Ire3o, ou porque e9 a Sedria, ou porque e9 o Hezbollah; ou porque usam foguetes, ou porque usam pedras, ou porque usam fisgas, ou porque choram, ou porque gritam, ou porque se revoltam. E ano apf3s ano Israel vai-se armando e fortalecendo e o estado palestiniano definhando e vendo a hipf3tese de independeancia por um canudo. Na prf3pria terra. He1 mais situae7f5es de arbitrariedade poledtica no mundo, o que quer que isso seja, mas esta e9 talvez a mais chocante porque com consequeancias graves na vida de toda a gente. De1 a ideia que se faz de propf3sito para acirrar as fore7as do mal’, aquilo que os brasileiros definem como cutucar a fera com vara curta’, para se ter a certeza de que a fera reage de modo a justificar a cae7ada que se segue. O impoluto Olmert afirma candidamente que o presidente da Autoridade Nacional Palestiniana, Mahmoud Abbas, e9 se9rio nas suas intene7f5es de paz’ e a actual direce7e3o palestiniana ne3o e9 terrorista’. Sere3o os prf3ximos, e9 claro, mas nesta etapa de1-lhes um jeite3o a divise3o palestiniana, ne3o foi por simpatias pessoais que a Mossad fez o que fez pelo Hamas. Para os que protestam em piloto autome1tico que leiam o camarada Olmert, que ne3o teve papas na ledngua e acusou em pleno parlamento o camarada Bibi de instalar e dar vida ao Hamas e uma maf5zinha solide1ria ao Yassin. A resposta foi uma acusae7e3o do mesmo jaez e le1 se engalfinharam de novo em denfancias mfatuas. Gente fina! O que ate9 nem admira nada, ne3o e9 verdade? Ne3o e9 a primeira vez em poucas de9cadas que os aprendizes de feiticeiro arremetem contra as suas criaturas quando estas esgotam o papel que lhes estava destinado. A receita e9 sempre a mesma e je1 vimos esse filme uma se9rie de vezes nos faltimos anos. Acho que je1 o transcrevi aqui, o Truman foi o homem que viabilizou o estado de Israel, pode dar-se-lhe o benefedcio de alguma imparcialidade. Nunca o afirmou em vida mas deixou-o nos die1rios, a bom recato, e0 cause des mouches e das eleie7f5es. Yet when they have power, physical, financial or political, neither Hitler nor Stalin has anything on them for cruelty or mistreatment to the underdog. Passados sessenta anos o MP e membro do Jewish Labour Movement, o brite2nico Gerald Kaufman, interve9m no Parlamento: My grandmother was ill in bed when the Nazis came to her home town of Staszow. A German soldier shot her dead in her bed. My grandmother did not die to provide cover for Israeli soldiers murdering Palestinian grandmothers in Gaza. They are not simply war criminals; they are fools.Por isso, caro RB, espero que fique satisfeito com a resposta porque a faltima coisa que tenciono e9 andar aqui a discutir quem e9 que, desta vez, nasceu primeiro, se o ovo ou a galinha. Teria que se voltar muito atre1s, e0 criae7e3o administrativa de dois estados na antiga Palestina, e0s dezenas de sane7f5es da ONU ao longo destes sessenta anos, e0s Convene7f5es de Genebra, a tudo o que se tem passado e0 luz do sol, e para isso je1 ne3o he1 pachorra. Como diz ainda o Kaufman, However many Palestinians the Israelis murder in Gaza, they cannot solve this existential problem by military means. It is time for our Government to make clear to the Israeli Government that their conduct and policies are unacceptable, and to impose a total arms ban on Israel.Deledrios, claro.

  • 28 2-20-2015 at 12:07 pm

    Niyasameen said...

    Look at Obama vs. Bush, Obama did the right thing and DID NOT ANNOUNCE WHAT THEY WERE DOING TO THE REST OF THE WORLD, however Bush alweold Bin-laden to pick up on what they where doing and move. Also, Bush fucked this country up so bad its almost impossible to fix what the asshole did. But guess who came along and is TRYING TO HELP THIS COUNTRY? O-B-A-M-A. P.s. GO FUCK ALL THE REPUBLICANS WITH GODDAMN NUCLEAR WARHEADS, they’re fighting Obama every step of the way to HELP this country