CINEJABBER: Where is my mind?

Posted by · 12:47 pm · February 19th, 2011

The ACE Eddies and CAS awards are tonight, the MPSE awards tomorrow, the Costume Designers Guild Tuesday, the Indie Spirit Awards a week from today, the Oscars next Sunday. I think I see a checkered flag in the distance.

I don’t have much for you here this week, but you know the drill. Open thread. Happy Saturday.

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  • 1 2-19-2011 at 1:03 pm

    Keil Shults said...

    Let Me In > Enter the Void

  • 2 2-19-2011 at 1:03 pm

    Keil Shults said...


    Taxi Driver > Drive Angry

  • 3 2-19-2011 at 1:07 pm

    Puchika said...

    Hi Kris,
    I know you’re a fan of my favorite movie of the year “The Way Back,” so for what it’s worth, this is cool to check out:

    Also, one of the most beautiful pieces of film music:

  • 4 2-19-2011 at 1:11 pm

    Keil Shults said...

    Once TKS became the front-runner, i lost interest in almost every category…even though it’s a good movie.


  • 5 2-19-2011 at 1:21 pm

    Marc R. said...

    I want my shutter island blu-ray to get here already. After that im not getting a movie for a while. So broke :(

  • 6 2-19-2011 at 1:40 pm

    monkey said...

    I saw I am Love yesterday and thought it was a beautiful movie, great performances, costumes. And Tilda Swinton who in my book can never do no wrong was excellent and deserve an oscar nomination for it. But in the sex scene they look real were they? And does anybody know who can kiss like Tilda with such passion?

  • 7 2-19-2011 at 1:46 pm

    Keil Shults said...

    i’ve already predicted next year’s best picture winner:

    The King’s Peach – a prince reluctant to assume the throne gains the confidence he needs to run a kingdom by successfully growing a single, luscious peach in a section of the royal garden which has not borne fruit for decades. Michael Fassbender plays the king-to-be and Jackie Chan plays the cantankerous gardener who teaches him how to become one with the soil. Director Joe Wright injects that all-important hip factor by foregoing a standard score, and choosing to pepper key scenes with Tears for Fears cover songs by Joanna Newsom instead.

  • 8 2-19-2011 at 1:48 pm

    Graysmith said...

    Finally got to see The Fighter and I’m in utter disbelief that Melissa Leo won all those awards for that performance and might even win an Oscar for it. What a joke, especially when the very same film features a performance in the same category that is frankly undisputedly better. Leo won’t even break my top ten of supporting actresses this year, and it was a lousy year for supporting actresses.

  • 9 2-19-2011 at 1:49 pm

    Keil Shults said...

    oh wait, peaches grow on trees, don’t they

    oh well, much of what i said can be salvaged

    hell, maybe Chan can play a botanical wizard with some revolutionary (re: heretical) ideas about agriculture

  • 10 2-19-2011 at 2:20 pm

    Loyal said...

    Finally watched The Warriors of Qiugang. Having spent time in China for work, I can attest to the environment being a wreck there.

    I would rank The Warriors of Qiugang above Killing in the Name. I still need to see Poster Girl, Sun Come Up, and Strangers No More.

  • 11 2-19-2011 at 2:28 pm

    Keil Shults said...

    How does a free podcast like Filmspotting make enough money to make it worthwhile for its creators to continue?

  • 12 2-19-2011 at 2:29 pm

    Speaking English said...

    ***What a joke, especially when the very same film features a performance in the same category that is frankly undisputedly better.***

    Right, it’s totally undisputed. You win. Come on! I don’t think Amy Adams was anywhere near as fantastic as Melissa Leo in the film, but I’m not going to go around and say it’s undisputed!

  • 13 2-19-2011 at 2:34 pm

    Keil Shults said...

    I’m kinda hoping Steinfeld beats them both.

  • 14 2-19-2011 at 2:41 pm

    JJ1 said...

    The whole Melissa Leo thing saddens me, greatly.

    Loved her in various tv/movies over the years. LOVED her in Frozen River and was over the moon that she got an Oscar nom.

    Now comes 2010. She’s very good in The Fighter, but not as good as Adams (my opinion). I even figured Adams would have been winning everything this whole season. Then Leo wins everything. She acts a bit strange. The ads come out. And she appears both over-eager and clueless about the campaign game.

    Now, she may lose (where a win would have made me happy-ish). And my opinion of her has gone down a notch. Anyone in the same pickle with her as I am?

  • 15 2-19-2011 at 2:53 pm

    Keil Shults said...

    Meta-Sitcom Pitch:

    A young aspiring actress moves from a small Southern town to New York City, where she hopes to make it big. She moves into an apartment where she soon befriends a trio of neurotic locals whose self-centered natures and carefree lifestyle threaten to seduce and ultimately destroy her. However, she manages to keep their influence at bay, and possibly inject a healthy dose of positivity and wide-eyed curiosity into their dismal lives, by simply being her charming self, come hell or high water.

    The title?


  • 16 2-19-2011 at 2:55 pm

    Keil Shults said...

    @JJ1: I feel a bit like you do, though my past affection for her mainly stemmed from her role in Homicide. Aside from that and Frozen River, I’m not sure what else I’d seen her in until the past couple of years.

  • 17 2-19-2011 at 3:24 pm

    Andrej said...

    Saw The King’s Speech for a second time. Found it funnier and more enjoyable. The audience loved it.

    I also saw True Grit again. Fell flat for me.

  • 18 2-19-2011 at 3:31 pm

    Justin said...

    I’ve got a feeling that Deakins is going home empty handed next Sunday.

    Anyone get that feeling?

  • 19 2-19-2011 at 3:38 pm

    Speaking English said...

    Some really interesting tidbits from the latest Entertainment Weekly here, where they speak to an Actor, a Writer, a Director, and an Executive about who they’re voting for at the Oscars. I’ll highlight a couple:

    The Actor goes for “The Fighter” in Best Picture, James Franco for Best Actor, and Michelle Williams for Best Actress.

    The Writer goes for “Black Swan” for Picture. He says “The King’s Speech” was “well-done but sort of canned,” and says it’s “just too much of a down-the-middle Oscar-bait movie. He goes with Javier Bardem for Best Actor.

    The Director goes for “The King’s Speech” in picture, but surprisingly goes for Fincher in Director and Eisenberg in Actor.

    The Executive chooses “The Social Network” in Picture, Fincher in Director, and is the first person to pick Colin Firth for Best Actor.

    Make of those what you will – no votes for Tom Hooper, only one for Natalie Portman. Very interesting.

  • 20 2-19-2011 at 3:38 pm

    JJ1 said...

    Oy. I agree with Justin. As Kris says, you can’t really expect the Academy at large to get it right. And if Cinematography says True Grit without Deakins name on the ballot ……..

  • 21 2-19-2011 at 3:44 pm

    Speaking English said...

    Some other bits of note:

    The Executive, about Melissa Leo: “The shallow part of me wants to hold those ads against her, but the performance is really great so I will look past it.”

    The Executive, about Annette Bening: “Natalie Portman did a great job, but Natalie is going to have countless chances to be nominated, and I don’t know how many more Annette will have.

    The Writer, about Colin Firth: “Colin Firth is, whatever – he was good. But I would rather reward movies that are trying to do something new and challenging, with at least a slight subversive streak.”

  • 22 2-19-2011 at 3:49 pm

    JJ1 said...

    I know it’s not 5,800 people. But I feel like I’ve read over 20+ accounts now of “voters” and most are going for The Fighter or TSN for BP, Bening, Bardem, etc.. I’m not reading wellspring support for the “favorites” by any of these voters. Or maybe they’re just choosing those that are different for us public to read.

  • 23 2-19-2011 at 4:05 pm

    Loyal said...

    The majority of AMPAS members aren’t the type of people who would be interviewed in EW. They aren’t noteworthy people who can be teased to readers “this Oscar nominated producer…” Many aren’t even active in today’s film community.

    These are the same people who gave Best Picture to Gladiator, Chicago, Crash, Forrest Gump, Return of the King, English Patient. And that’s not a comment about quality or lackthereof but rather how similar they are in their taste to ordinary filmgoers.

    They nominated The Blind Side AND District 9 for fucksake, lol.

  • 24 2-19-2011 at 4:36 pm

    Speaking English said...

    This one’s funny – “I feel like I voted for a version of ‘The King’s Speech’ in 1995. But ‘The King’s Speech’ will win and it’ll be: The cool movie loses yet again to the pearls-and-fur movie.”

  • 25 2-19-2011 at 4:52 pm

    DarkLayers said...

    Speaking English, EW sampled four voters last year. Three of them went for Avatar compared to one for The Hurt Locker. Three of them went for Meryl Streep. So, I don’t know how much you can forecast from these samples.

  • 26 2-19-2011 at 4:54 pm

    Corey said...

    I really wish Jacki Weaver would win supporting actress. I thought she was a revelation.

  • 27 2-19-2011 at 5:00 pm

    DarkLayers said...

    JJ1 to add to that point, both EW and LA Times didn’t show much strength for Sandra Bullock in their “voters share their opinions” sections last year.

    We can only know next Sunday, but I wonder about a couple of possibilities:

    (a) If there is momentum or a herd mentality, are people following it less likely to share their views with publications?

    (b) It’s often believed that people who hold detracting views can be more active in expressing them while people happy with things skate on blithely. If this is the case, might voters with differing opinions be more vocal?

    For last year’s, here is the link.

  • 28 2-19-2011 at 5:00 pm

    Speaking English said...

    I know, DarkLayers. I still find it fun!

  • 29 2-19-2011 at 5:01 pm

    Dooby said...

    I loved Melissa Leo in Frozen river but she was ridiculous in the Fighter. Amy Adams was alot better.

    Also whats all this hoopla about Hailee Steinfeld’s one-note and rather annoying performance?

  • 30 2-19-2011 at 5:20 pm

    Speaking English said...

    How is she “ridiculous” in “The Fighter?” Because it’s a larger-than-life character? Give me a break.

  • 31 2-19-2011 at 5:29 pm

    Bennett said...

    I agree with you Corey!!
    I sometimes wonder what Jacki Weaver’s chances would be if a lot of people had seen her movie. Everyone lists her as #5 on their lists because they either haven’t seen it or assume that nobody else has, but I would LOVE to actually read something that commends her for her performance and ranks her PERFORMANCE against those in her category.

  • 32 2-19-2011 at 7:52 pm

    americanrequeim said...

    kris can we have a link to the predict the oscars contest?

  • 33 2-19-2011 at 8:15 pm

    Kristopher Tapley said...

    What predict the Oscars contest? The annual pool? It’s in the left sidebar.

  • 34 2-19-2011 at 8:16 pm

    Mike said...

    @JJ1: I could not have said it better myself. My sentiments exactly.

    Other things I’m thinking about:
    – District 9 was my favourite movie of last year.
    – How to Train Your Dragon’s music is best
    – How I really want Amy Adams to win
    – Javier Bardem might be in second place for the Oscar. Is it a crime/delusional to think he might upset?
    – How every time Weinstein won Best Picture, his supporting lady also won, once in an upset (Binoche), one in a semi-surprise (Dench), and the other being totally expected (Zeta-Jones). Is this good news for HBC?
    – Is there any chance voters will actually vote for the best performance and give Nicole Kidman the status of two time Best Actress Ocsar winner? She would join the esteemed ranks of Hilary Swank, Luise Rainer, and Sally Field (oh and also Bette Davis, Jane Fonda, Jodie Foster, Olivia de Havilland, Vivien Leigh, and Ingrid Bergman).

    Also, True Grit is really not that good. Way overrated. The Coens can do better than that. And I will be upset if Steinfeld wins. She was very wooden and I didn’t give a rats ass about her character or anyone elses.

  • 35 2-19-2011 at 8:31 pm

    Joe C said...

    My crazy thought of the day…

    Anyone think 127 Hours could upset in Editing? The race seems wide open to me. Obviously, TKS has a shot with the BP/Editing combo. But, when BP and editing haven’t matched, it was Aviator over MDB…and then there was Black Hawk Down and Bourne Ultimatum.

    Thus, to me, if the BP winner loses, it’s not a “showy” edited film. (Not that that means it’s not well edited, just not showy.) TSN obviously stands out, but not overly so. Fighter: Boxing always popular in this category. Black Swan: Editing heavy.

    But, then there’s 127 Hours. Could it win this split? The film is probably the most editing centric of any nominated films…and with 6 noms, maybe it has a little more love than we thought?

    Just a thought…

  • 36 2-19-2011 at 8:35 pm

    Joe7827 said...

    Wow, that AMC Best Picture showcase was a lot of fun. I really enjoyed the five movies we watched, and I wasn’t even all that excited about today’s lineup to begin with.

    Incidentally, I saw three of the Supporting Actress nominees. Speaking English: Melissa Leo is ridiculous, not just because she’s larger than life, but because she’s not at all convincing in it. Heck, most of the characters in the movie don’t even believe her. (I’d say the same for Bale with his “I’m wacky!!!” role, but he makes up for it with his amazing climactic scene at Amy Adams’ house.) Adams herself is two things: charming, and believable. When she shows up and turns around 30+ years of Mark Wahlberg’s life in 3 weeks, I totally bought it. As for Hailee Steinfeld: she was good enough, I guess, but I agree with Dooby that it’s sort of one-note. She just robotically spouts out the dialogue, and she does it well, but there’s not much to it.

  • 37 2-19-2011 at 9:04 pm

    Earl said...

    I still hope the new voting format gives TSN an upset chance. If KS does not get it on the 1st ballot, it might not have much growth. It will be scary if Benning wins. I think he should be in supporting and then she might have had a chance. That was the mistake. If HBC gets supporting, I will weep, She did nothing and should not even have been nominated. This will be a tragic year that will be seen in the rear view mirror as a huge mistake. I agree totally with Loyal. I loved the King’s Peach thing. It tops my idea – The King’s Driver’s Test. It would have been funny watching him drive over all those commoners and side wipe their cars. “I can drive”
    “Yes you can”. Oh my wife just suggested that the teacher is the king’s driver and they have to hide the fact that whenever they go for a drive, it is really a driving lesson.

  • 38 2-19-2011 at 9:10 pm

    Speaking English said...

    I found her totally convincing. Look at Melissa Leo during these awards shows and tell me you can see ANY trace of that character in her. It’s a completely incredible disappearing act, the way she soaks into that role. Just amazing.

  • 39 2-19-2011 at 9:39 pm

    Ben M. said...

    For what’s it worth since the eddie is mention in the thread Alice in Wonderland, The Social Network, Toy Story 3, and Exit Through the Gift Shop won the eddies.

    I think this makes me feel more confident in my prediction of Social Network for the editing oscar, and while I’m probably still going with Inside Job for the documentary oscar, the eddie win does add a bit to the momentum Exit has seemed to pick up.

  • 40 2-19-2011 at 10:38 pm

    DarkLayers said...

    37, only one other organization does it that way: PGA. And TKS won there.

  • 41 2-19-2011 at 11:37 pm

    JJ1 said...

    Bizarre question/comment coming. But this IS cinejabber, so please forgive.

    Does anyone ever prefer one movie, but want another one to win Best Picture? For any reason whatsoever? Examples?

    Mine for now: I think The Social Network is a better move than The King’s Speech. I marvel at many of it’s components. But I also really enjoyed The King’s Speech and (not-so-secretly anymore) want to see it win. I can’t put my finger on why. But there it is. Anyone have similar thoughts from whenever/whatever Oscar race?

  • 42 2-20-2011 at 3:59 am

    Guy Lodge said...

    How every time Weinstein won Best Picture, his supporting lady also won, once in an upset (Binoche), one in a semi-surprise (Dench), and the other being totally expected (Zeta-Jones).

    Nothing even semi-surprising about Dench’s win. The precursors may have been all over the place in that category that year, but she was comfortably the favourite.

  • 43 2-20-2011 at 5:16 am

    Chris P. said...

    @JJ1: I constantly get that. And I guess that’s why there are so many people who get an Oscar not for a specific performance, but rather to acknowledge their entire career (recent examples being Jeff Bridges, Kate Winslet, possibly Annette Bening if she wins).

    For instance I was hoping for ‘The Departed’ to win in ’06, because I thought it was the right film to reward Scorsese for. Still, of the nominees, I prefer ‘Little Miss Sunshine’.

  • 44 2-20-2011 at 8:57 am

    James D. said...

    JJ1: I do if my favorite nominee is not a realistic winner. Inglourious Basterds was my favorite movie of 2009, but I wanted The Hurt Locker, which I liked well enough, to roll over Avatar.

    On an unrelated note, I think anyone who has not seen Carlos should run to go fix that. The whole 5.5 hour version is on Netflix straming now.

  • 45 2-20-2011 at 12:36 pm

    Mike said...

    “Nothing even semi-surprising about Dench’s win. The precursors may have been all over the place in that category that year, but she was comfortably the favourite.”
    Thanks Guy. I kind of just assumed she was not the favourite considering she won neither the SAG or the Globe. I wouldn’t know considering The fact that I was five when the ceremony aired.

    @JJ1: I get that all the time, but more with performances. For example, this year Nicole Kidman, Javier Bardem, and Amy Adams were my favorites in their categories. However, I really want Annette Bening and Colin Firth to win. For supporting actress, as long as it is not Steinfeld I will be happy.

  • 46 2-20-2011 at 2:35 pm

    Silencio said...

    “Also whats all this hoopla about Hailee Steinfeld’s one-note and rather annoying performance?”

    Coming from a musician’s point of view, playing mostly one note for an extended period of time is quite difficult. The longer it goes, the more temptation there is to play something, ANYthing different. But if that one note is what’s needed for the piece, you play it anyway. Then when the note does change, it means that much more. To translate this to acting, there were many opportunities she could have taken to show us her grief over her father. How many pauses, stop-and-start sentences, lowered and closed eyes could she have employed to remind us just how much she’s grieving? Obviously a lot. But every now and then, she’d smile and her eyes flickered. When she was on the horse with Rooster, filled with snake venom, that one note was gone. At the very least it was an octave higher. When the horse was shot, same thing.

    Woody Harrelson pulled off something similar in The Messenger. Sticking to your note is hard work, but we serve the song. We serve the film.

  • 47 2-20-2011 at 5:20 pm

    Matthew Starr said...

    Further proof Kanye is a cinephile….