OSCAR TALK: Ep. 13 — NBR, awards season party circuit and ‘Complicated’ awards prospects

Posted by · 12:07 pm · December 5th, 2009

Oscar TalkWelcome to a belated edition of Oscar Talk, your weekly kudocast featuring yours truly and Anne Thompson of Thompson on Hollywood.

On the docket today:

With the National Board of Review having kicked off the awards season, Anne and I discuss the big winners and implications for the season.

Tis the season and the party circuit is alight, so with that in mind, we talk about a few of the taste-makers around town this week, including…

Peter Jackson, Saoirse Ronan and Stanley Tucci in an intimate cocktail party for “The Lovely Bones.”

Fox Searchlight’s holiday shin-dig in Century City with “Crazy Heart” principals in attendance.

An “Inglourious Basterds” DVD release party at producer Lawrence Bender’s home.

And a Summit holiday party with the folks from “The Hurt Locker” burning the midnight oil.

Finally, no reviews of “It’s Complicated” are allowed yet, but Anne and I discuss how we think it will fare in the awards race.

Have a listen to this week’s podcast below, with a taste of Hans Zimmer’s score for “Sherlock Holmes” to start you off. As always, you can subscribe to Oscar Talk via iTunes here.


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30 responses so far

  • 1 12-05-2009 at 12:48 pm

    Hunter said...

    That Sherlock Holmes score sounds phenomenal. Very Morricone.

  • 2 12-05-2009 at 12:52 pm

    Loyal said...

    Wow, about 7 minutes on Avatar and last night’s screening. Good stuff.

  • 3 12-05-2009 at 1:07 pm

    aspect ratio said...

    Julie & Julia might seem like it’s fading right now, but in ten days when the Golden Globes announce their nominees it’ll bounce right back. Best Actress, certainly, Best Comedy/Musical very likely, Screenplay a possibility and I can imagine Stanley Tucci getting nominated, maybe even for Best Actor in a C/M! (I’m similarly predicting Alec Baldwin to get a lead comedy nom for It’s Complicated.)

    I’ve obviously not seen It’s Complicated and Diane Keaton got a nomination with Meyers at the helm.. But while Streep could easily score a double nom at the Globes, I would have to think the Academy will much rather nominate her for playing a real person, and Julia Child no less! Bio-pic performances are their bread n’ butter.

  • 4 12-05-2009 at 1:19 pm

    SHAAAARK said...

    I think District 9 might have a better chance for success with the Academy because of the apartheid metaphor. It has somewhat loftier aspirations than Avatar or Star Trek, probably, which could be decisive.

  • 5 12-05-2009 at 3:09 pm

    red_wine said...

    It would be really amazing if Renner is nominated. That will truly bring a cheer on nomination day. However I hope Precious doesn’t get a Director nomination.

    The Best Director field seems so weak! There’s scorn for Marshall and modest praise for Eastwood. Reitman has his admirers but I’m beginning to think Bigelow might win. Praise for her work far out shines any other director’s work. I think she’s gonna tear through critics awards. The Hurt Locker too. And like Anne said, A Serious Man and Bright Star could win some big critics prizes.

    Maybe the Oscars will split with Bigelow & Up In The Air winning. But I fear the DGA will award Reitman.

  • 6 12-05-2009 at 3:18 pm

    Kristopher Tapley said...

    I think you did a good job of summing up what’s likely to happen right there.

  • 7 12-05-2009 at 3:31 pm

    aspect ratio said...

    I can only imagine Reitman or Bigelow winning Best Director. Reitman wins if Up in the Air takes BP, Bigelow wins if Precious or The Hurt Locker (or any other film, really) takes BP.

    If the Best Director field is weak it’s only because the Academy doesn’t think outside the box (same as with Best Actress). Spike Jonze’s unique vision for Where the Wild Things Are is probably one of the most unique of the year, but he probably won’t be nominated. Tarantino stands a better chance, but is still a dark horse despite making a film that is such a auteur’s film.

  • 8 12-05-2009 at 3:58 pm

    AmericanRequiem said...

    I think Tarantino will be a serious best director candidate this season, it does seem to be weak directors year, maybe because so many of the directors in contention have already won

  • 9 12-05-2009 at 4:20 pm

    Dan said...

    Peter Jackson could always get a director nom for some pretty sunning work.

  • 10 12-05-2009 at 4:41 pm

    Robert Hamer said...

    I was reminded more of Danny Elfman when listening to that score…

    I’m a little let down that you guys didn’t talk more about Alec Baldwin, other than that he seems to be a Supporting Actor lock. So, is he that good?

  • 11 12-05-2009 at 4:57 pm

    Michael said...

    American Requiem —

    I actually think the Directing category, aside from the Acting, is the tightest this year. We already have Reitman, Bigelow and Daniels pretty much in already — that leaves two spots.

  • 12 12-05-2009 at 5:06 pm

    Kristopher Tapley said...

    The point mentioned in the copy here is that we can’t discuss the film at great length yet, Robert. But I’ll say I saw the film Saturday and took Baldwin out of my predictions Monday.

  • 13 12-05-2009 at 5:44 pm

    Dan said...

    Kris, I’m very eager to hear your thoughts on The Lovely Bones in other big categories, particularly Best Director and Screenplay. You seem to love the film, but I noticed you aren’t predicting it in either category?

  • 14 12-05-2009 at 5:49 pm

    Kristopher Tapley said...

    No, I’m not. Doesn’t mean I don’t like a film if I’m not predicting it for something, though.

  • 15 12-05-2009 at 6:00 pm

    Kevin said...

    Where did you find that excerpt of the Sherlock Holmes score? It sounded awesome and I am chomping at the bit to hear more of it and the Avatar and Lovely Bones score! :)

  • 16 12-05-2009 at 8:01 pm

    Frank Lee said...

    Anne seemed to misunderstand the voting process. She sounded concerned that vote splitting for Meryl Streep between her two starring roles might hurt her. In fact, as long as both roles are in the same category, it cannot hurt her. If she gets 300 votes for “Julie and Julia” and 200 votes for “It’s Complicated,” that counts as 500 votes for “Julie and Julia.”

  • 17 12-05-2009 at 11:00 pm

    Sean said...

    Hmm, not sure about that Frank Lee.
    I thought ONE of the performance had to reach the 20% threshold and that was the performance to get the nomination.

  • 18 12-06-2009 at 2:21 am

    Robert Hamer said...

    Hmm…interesting…thanks for clarifying, Kris.

  • 19 12-06-2009 at 6:04 am

    JJ said...

    If what Frank Lee said is true, I think that’s pretty cool.

  • 20 12-06-2009 at 7:14 am

    Brent said...

    Is that true? I always thought vote splitting was a major factor?

    The above rule proposed by Frank seems to eliminate it altogether.

  • 21 12-06-2009 at 9:54 am

    qwiggles said...

    I’m not sure about that, Frank — I think the only scenario in which her J&J performance thrives with those numbers is if the 200 votes for the IC performance were enough to nominate it. They tabulate by performance, as I understand it — not by actress.

  • 22 12-06-2009 at 9:56 am

    qwiggles said...

    …which, if you think about it, is kind of unfair for the film that also would’ve got nominated, if the actress wasn’t voted in more strongly in another film. I think this kind of scenario might’ve happened last year with Winslet in RR: she might well have been double nominated, with the lesser vote count dropped in favour of a fifth actress. (Not that I have any nostalgia for RR.)

  • 23 12-06-2009 at 4:12 pm

    Sean said...

    Kris, when is the embargo lifted for It’s Complicated?

  • 24 12-06-2009 at 4:56 pm

    Dylan said...

    Kris, this doesn’t really apply to Oscar Talk this week, but it’s something that occured to me, and I want to know your opinion on it, and I don’t know where else to ask you.

    Would Fantastic Mr. Fox be eligible for Costume Design? Yes, it is an animated film, but all those costumes were real fabric, hand sewn, etc. If it were eligible, and the Academy were even to consider it a possibility, I think it deserves a nomination. What do you think?

  • 25 12-06-2009 at 5:03 pm

    Guy Lodge said...

    Dylan: As it happens, you’re not the first person to suggest that:


  • 26 12-06-2009 at 8:06 pm

    Adam Smith said...

    Kris: in response to your comment about Gollum and King Kong being the best examples of motion capturing to date, might I also suggest Davy Jones as another one of the finest visual effects of the decade?

  • 27 12-06-2009 at 10:27 pm

    Alfie said...

    Saw The Lovely Bones finally. I am a bit of a jackson fan i will be honest but it is nowhere near as bad as some critics are making out. Nowhere near. In fact its pretty great and I do feel a lot of critics are attacking what he film isn’t and not what the film is. Audience reaction seemed fairly positive as far as I could tell. People clapped anyway. Need to see it again.
    There is one scene in particular I love and it involves harvey and fennerman and a dollshouse. a great moment.

  • 28 12-07-2009 at 11:27 am

    JJ said...

    Kris, say this film bombs out with critics. Is it the kind of film that still may be in the Academy’s Top 10 or not?

  • 29 12-07-2009 at 11:32 am

    JJ said...

    Everything I’ve read that’s positive in all the positive reviews about TLB gets me very, very excited for it.

  • 30 12-07-2009 at 3:24 pm

    Frank Lee said...

    I can’t remember where I read this, but I do remember reading — in what purported to be a well-researched piece on Oscar voting — that once the academy eliminated double-nominations in the same category, they began counting all of one actor’s votes in a category together. I also remember reading that there is a certain weighted value to the second-place votes of people who put a huge favorite as their first vote. That is, if fully half the voters (I don’t remember what the cut-off was–perhaps it was as low as the 20% plus one vote mark) put Meryl Streep as their top vote for best actress, then their second-place votes count partially (I don’t remember what percentage of a vote it counts, though) so that all five nominees end up with fairly broad support. I wish I could remember where I read this. The explanations I find on the web are much less thorough.