OSCAR TALK: Ep. 12 — Holiday screeners, ‘Invictus’ and ‘The Lovely Bones’ land, thoughts on ‘Nine’ and more

Posted by · 6:29 pm · November 27th, 2009

Oscar TalkWelcome to Oscar Talk, your weekly kudocast featuring yours truly and Anne Thompson of Thompson on Hollywood.

On the docket today:

We lead off talking holiday screeners, including further talk of “Inglourious Basterds” slipping into the 10 in the wake of fading heavies.

Speaking of which, fresh off a screening of “The Lovely Bones,” a film that isn’t caught in the embargo tug of war, we touch briefly on our thoughts, to certainly be expanded at another time.

As trade and magazine reviews pop up while others are still told to hold off, we get into Clint Eastwood’s “Invictus.”

And with screenings of “Nine” already two weeks old, we finally add our perspective on the musical adaptation and certain category placements.

Finally, with no revelations left save for James Cameron’s “Avatar,” we look at the film’s marketing strategy and the rumor mill on secret screenings.

Have a listen to this week’s podcast below, with Kate Hudson and “Cinema Italiano” leading the way. As always, you can subscribe to Oscar Talk via iTunes here.


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  • 1 11-28-2009 at 3:50 pm

    georgieS said...

    I’d stick a fork in my eye before seeing Avatar. Frankly, it make the Pokemon movie from a few years back look watchable in comparison.

  • 2 11-28-2009 at 4:01 pm

    Loyal said...

    The hyperbole being tossed around by Avatar detractors is reaching levels of performance art. Pokemon!? Really!?

    I would say I wish December 18th would hurry up and get here but I have a feeling we’ll be hearing this kind of nonsense until March.

  • 3 11-28-2009 at 4:09 pm

    Kristopher Tapley said...

    I’ve re-edited a different version with the levels more properly adjusted, FYI.

  • 4 11-28-2009 at 4:35 pm

    Jane said...

    The problem with Avatar is that on anything less than a giant screen and in 3-D, it could look ridiculous to non-sci fi geeks. And on a non-theater size screen, it looks REALLY ridiculous. A large percent of moviegoers don’t do IMAX and think 3-D is painful– it’s way overpriced and some people have to drive a long way to even get to an IMAX screen.

  • 5 11-28-2009 at 4:54 pm

    Chad Hartigan said...

    Loyal- Top 10 for 12 weeks? What planet are you from? I know it’s nerdbait but Avatar is not going to be that huge at the box office. It will not make more than New Moon. It may not even make more than The Blind Side.

  • 6 11-28-2009 at 5:04 pm

    Guy Lodge said...

    Back in 1997, everyone I knew — from my girlfriend to my grandparents — went to see “Titanic.”

    Suffice to say my gran isn’t lining up for “Avatar.”

  • 7 11-28-2009 at 5:19 pm

    Loyal said...

    That’s more your gran’s issue, than something about the film Guy.

    Earth Chad, it’s a lovely place. I Am Legend and King Kong stayed in the top 10 for 9 weeks. Narnia for 12 weeks. Er, I thought you were supposed to be this site’s box office guy. Yikes.

  • 8 11-28-2009 at 5:24 pm

    aspect ratio said...

    Personally, I wasn’t looking forward to Avatar all that much after the first trailer, but as it draws nearer and I’ve seen some more of it, I’m starting to reach a point where I’m dying to see it.

    As for the talk of people not being willing to see a movie with silly-looking blue people, huh? if there are people like that it ought to be a very small percentage. I’ve seen far more ludicrous things on the big screen.

    With it opening the weekend before Christmas, with that weekend practically to itself, and with the Christmas/New Year’s period coming on just after, it ought to do very well, especially if it’s a really good movie and the word of mouth is good.

    No, it won’t do Titanic numbers, nothing has ever since, and it did that in a time when the box office wasn’t as boffo as it is now. But with a worldwide assault like they have in store, it’ll do well enough, especially since international markets aren’t as packed with must-sees as the year-end in North America.

    I’ve even seen a tv-spot for it over here (in Europe), which is almost unheard of this early. They are getting the word out, certainly.

  • 9 11-28-2009 at 5:28 pm

    aspect ratio said...

    What I’m most curious to hear though is whether or not Daniel Day-Lewis is IN or OUT for Best Actor. He was mentioned in the podcast but the performance and Oscar chances weren’t really touched upon, and there are certainly several other performances (Damon, Renner) just outside of the five most are predicting right now (Bridges, Clooney, Day-Lewis, Firth, Freeman).

  • 10 11-28-2009 at 5:41 pm

    David said...

    saw LOVELY BONES at a screening and did not read the book. As opposed to either loving it or hating it, parts of it worked but the context for the family’s behavior did not – the stripped down narrative was apparent – it was a set of bones without a lot of meat. Beautiful images, ultimately unsatisfying.

  • 11 11-28-2009 at 5:47 pm

    AmericanRequiem said...

    can we fire chad? he makes me sad, and im pretty sure he hates movies

  • 12 11-28-2009 at 5:53 pm

    Loyal said...

    I actually like Chad, he mostly earns his keep. But I would like him to, well you know, research things like December box office runs before dismissing commentators.

    A 12 week Top 10 December box office run for a possible Best Picture nominee with an exclusive IMAX window isn’t far fetched at all. Lets revisit this conversation in 4 weeks. Maybe Avatar opens with 30m and its all moot.

  • 13 11-28-2009 at 6:24 pm

    Guy Lodge said...

    I’d say Chad loves movies more than most people here. He makes them, after all, which is more than I can say.

    Save the scorn regarding his projections for when we actually have some numbers to line them up against. For now, he’s just doing his job.

  • 14 11-28-2009 at 6:33 pm

    James D. said...

    I don’t know anyone that is interested in Avatar, but then again I didn’t know anyone interested in Transformers 2, so who knows?

    Also, Chad is great because he is a prick. He is replacing Guy Lodge as my favorite contributor.

  • 15 11-28-2009 at 6:47 pm

    John said...

    I agree with aspect radio!! What about Day Lewis and the best actor and director category?? ROb Marshall and Peter Jackson have a chance?? Predict TEN nominations for best picture is so boring!!

  • 16 11-28-2009 at 8:17 pm

    Alfie said...

    Great! Just found out I am going to screenings of Bones and Invictus in LA this week! Can’t wait.

  • 17 11-28-2009 at 8:25 pm

    Joel said...

    James D.: Um, I’m interested in both.

    But then nobody but Kris actually listens to me. Kind of depressing.

  • 18 11-29-2009 at 3:08 am

    Glenn said...

    “The hyperbole being tossed around by Avatar detractors is reaching levels of performance art.”

    I actually tweeted that, Loyal, so congrats. ’twas funny!

  • 19 11-29-2009 at 3:12 am

    Guy Lodge said...

    Aw, Joel, I listen to everybody.

    James D, what can I do to win you back? ;)

  • 20 11-29-2009 at 6:45 am

    mike said...

    Sherlock Holmes is either gonna be great or garbage, thats the type of director Guy Ritchie is.

  • 21 11-29-2009 at 11:11 am

    James D. said...

    Guy, I think I soured on you when you didn’t like Inglourious Basterds. The one-two punch of The Class and I’ve Loved You So Long was what had you on top, so if you are right on The White Ribbon or A Prophet, it will be back to normalcy.

  • 22 11-29-2009 at 4:30 pm

    Guy Lodge said...

    Oh, I am SO right about “A Prophet.” You’ll be back ;)

    Of course, I’m right about “Basterds” too … but then, aren’t we all?