The absurdities of ‘The Dark Knight’

Posted by · 3:38 pm · December 14th, 2008

The Dark KnightEven as a clear fan of the film, I have to say this cracked me up:

Wait, so the Joker really orchestrated that big truck chase just so that he could get caught and go to prison, then he could kidnap that guard and grab his phone to make the call to set off the bomb he’d previously sewn inside the henchman in the next cell? That would kill the guy who stole the mobsters’ money, thus enabling him to … er, what? Heath Ledger’s Joker may have been a psychopath, but he had a nerdish capacity for forward planning.

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  • 1 12-14-2008 at 3:47 pm

    Michael said...

    Read #1. It’s hilarious:

  • 2 12-14-2008 at 3:49 pm

    Rob said...

    I would argue that the absurdity of the Jokers planning reflects his character. Everything he does makes sense to him, and him alone. Also, Lau (sp?) wasnt killed by the explosion. if you look carefully hes tied up on the pile of money in a later scene.

  • 3 12-14-2008 at 3:55 pm

    JAB said...

    does he really look like a guy with a plan?

  • 4 12-14-2008 at 4:12 pm

    Chris said...

    Rob, there’s no need to defend the film on this. Seriously, the whole scene has always been ridiculous, but you can still like it anyway.

    I really liked the fact that they included “Man on Wire” on the list. That really made me smile.

  • 5 12-14-2008 at 4:27 pm

    Mateo Starr said...

    Everyone realizes this is a comic book movie right? Does anyone wonder how Robert Downey can fly or how Brad Pitt can age backwards? It’s called suspension of disbelief people.

  • 6 12-14-2008 at 4:28 pm

    Casey F. said...

    i have to say this is actually incorrect. the purpose of the giant chase was to kill Batman/Dent, or either of them for that matter. he probably just figured he would get caught. odds were he would because, truth be told, gotham city had a lot riding on this protection plan. he even tells batman that he believed he was dent because of the way “you threw yourself after her”. the purpose of the chase was not to get caught and capture lau. that was just the inevitable finish.

  • 7 12-14-2008 at 4:37 pm

    Joel said...

    Plus, everyone forgets this little tidbit: JOKER FEEDS ON CHAOS. Chaos doesn’t require an end result. Anywhere is a good destination. That’s his whole dealio.

  • 8 12-14-2008 at 4:52 pm

    Kristopher Tapley said...

    I’d like to step in now before sentiments from Mateo Starr, Joel, Casey and Rob, all points well taken, are compounded into potential fanboy rage by others waiting to pounce defend this scene. Let it go. Have fun with it. Jeez.

  • 9 12-14-2008 at 5:14 pm

    JAB said...

    i just need to say somewhere: i found the wolverine trailer online, and it looks sick. i can’t wait!

  • 10 12-14-2008 at 5:25 pm

    Jake said...

    The Joker says, “Do I really look like a guy with a plan?” He is!! It is kind of funny though…how he planned all that to work out so well.

  • 11 12-14-2008 at 5:28 pm

    Chris said...

    Haha, I love the film, it’s my favorite of the year (tied with Milk), but I did chuckle at that paragraph. However, I agree that people do have to suspend their disbelief for it, considering it is somewhat of a fantasy and based on a comic book.

    On the flip side, the Joker’s plans all work out. Impressive.

  • 12 12-14-2008 at 6:36 pm

    Harmonica said...

    Even thought that’s not what the chase’s really about (he was trying to kill Dent, but eventually got caught. I figure he had a “Plan B”, as would any psycopath with half a brain, and it involved the bomb inside the guy’s stomach), I laughed out loud with that paragraph.

  • 13 12-14-2008 at 6:49 pm

    Brian Kinsley said...

    I have a bigger issue with third act Dent (just suffered major burns? fuck it! it don’t hurt anymore!), but this was priceless.

  • 14 12-14-2008 at 7:48 pm

    Rob said...

    The reason why the joker claims to be a guy without a plan is because he’s a walking contradiction. he lies about everything. this is most obvious in his “scar” stories that he tells his victims.

  • 15 12-14-2008 at 8:04 pm

    red_wine said...

    This just shows the level of devotion for the film where fans are willing to defend even the most absurd plot mechanisms. It is a fantasy, a super-hero film. If we try re-construct all the actions of Joker into a sensible scenario, the film would near collapse.

  • 16 12-14-2008 at 8:09 pm

    Lane said...

    As absurd as this premise may be for a film, you have to admit it worked very well for the Dark Knight.

  • 17 12-14-2008 at 11:06 pm

    BurmaShave said...

    When I was reading about how supposedly absurd this sequence was I got chills remembering how good it was.

  • 18 12-15-2008 at 1:42 am

    Chris said...

    “As absurd as this premise may be for a film, you have to admit it worked very well for the Dark Knight.”

    Sorry, but this really sounds like: if Chris Nolan does it, it’s fine, had however someone like Sam Raimi done it, boy, would it be ludicrous. ;)

  • 19 12-15-2008 at 11:05 am

    drbenway said...

    Pet peeve: when people act dumb to make a point. In this case, the Guardian’s doing it.

    The Joker wanted to kill or capture Dent, and get caught at the scene of the crime.

    Not so far fetched, is it?

    I would gladly laugh (I’m constantly taking the piss out of this movie) if their point weren’t wholly invented.

  • 20 12-15-2008 at 8:26 pm

    AlexC said...

    I get the joke, but since no one’s mentioned the actual point of the plan here in the comments, I figure I should – the point of being caught was to get Lau. The point of getting Lau was to get the money back for the gangsters, which the DA had allowed Lau to keep hidden. The point of getting the money back was to take control of the gangsters, so he could use the underworld in whatever twisted games he could come up with. It all took just a little push.

  • 21 12-16-2008 at 3:41 pm

    Scott Ward said...

    People defend this Red Wine because it is actually a film that you can analyze and was meant to be heavily critiqued.